Battling Comcast

On February 4, 2022 at 12:35 P.M. — I had what I am hoping will be my last conversation with Comcast/Xfinity ever. But things did not stop there. Rashea had phoned indicating they (Comcast) had received a copy of my complaint filed with the Office of the Attorney General in Michigan. Apparently, she simply wanted me to know that they were replying I was just a routine delinquent account who had not paid his bill as agreed. She even boldly stated that she had copies of all my documentation, but it did not make any difference in how they were going to respond. I told her I had all I wanted to do with Comcast, and just make sure my entire account was cancelled, including all of my Comcast emails. I also said they could show that "Comcast Cares" by canceling the bogus past due balance they keep billing me for. She said she could take care of the first two, but that she had already made it clear that last one was not going to happen. I got a letter from the Michigan Department of Attorney General dated 2/10/22 indicating Comcast insists my "account was billed correctly." The letter indicated I might wish "to consider filing a private civil action," and suggested that I "consult with with a private attorney."  Everything was left there until . . . .

On Friday, March 4, I received a letter from Eastern Accounting System of Connecticut, Inc. (a debt collector). And, the day before on March 3, I also saw a Comcast email among my Gmail addresses. It said "we're sad to hear you're changing your Xfinity services. However, we're happy to let you know you can continue using your Comcast email address . . . ." Just one more thing Comcast did not follow through on. The debt collection letter indicated I could "dispute all or part of the debt" in writing. That is what is prompting this letter I am placing on my website, so I do not have to keep printing all of the pages of documentation. I had already sent printed copies of those to:

Attorney General
Consumer Complaints
G. Mennen Williams Bldg
P O Box 30212
Lansing, MI 48909

  AARP
601 E St NW
Washington DC 20049

(where I am a member)
  Consumer Reports
P O Box 2109
Harlan, IA 51593-0298

(where I am a member)
Gary Peters
724 Hart Senate Office Bldg
Washington DC 20510

(one of my U.S. senators)
  Debbie Stabenow
731 Hart Senate Office Bldg
Washington DC 20510

(one of my U.S. senators)
  Tim Walberg
2266 Rayburn HOB
Washington DC 20515

(my U.S. representative)
Tom Barrett
P O Box 30036
Lansing, MI 48909-7536

(my state senator)
  Angela Witwer
Anderson House Office Bldg
124 N Capitol Ave
Lansing, MI 48933

(my state representative)
  And, of course, all documents
were sent throughout these
months to Comcast by email,
and in writing.

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A Brief Synopsis Before All Documentation

For several years, we had to call the Customer Retention Department at Comcast to get a rate we could actually afford. The rates were only good for a year, then I had to call again for the next year. I dreaded those calls. One Comcast person said we were supposed to receive a notice when the rate was going to increase, but we never did. It was only when the full price invoice arrived that I would know it was time to call again. On the morning of August 30, 2021 I made my call, and spoke with Jon who offered me a $30 monthly rate (automatic bank withdrawal), and a $40 rate (billed). From prior experience, I knew the first person you spoke with never gave the best rate available. I asked Jon if I could speak with a supervisor to see if there was any chance I could just stay at the $35 rate. Since they were working from home, he needed to find someone who could call me back. But, no one ever did call me back

So, on August 31, 2021, I wrote a letter to Comcast explaining what took place "yesterday." In that letter, which I signed, I stated, "If you cannot keep my bill at $35 in perpetuity until such day as I would change my type of service, and must change it to the $40 Jon offered, I will accept that."

On September 30, 2021 Chris M. from Comcast Executive Customer Relations sent me an email. He alluded to the executive office contact they received, but never mention my acceptance of the $40 rate. Instead, he claimed I was on a Performance Starter for $56 per month. The invoice total was $59. An amount almost double Jon's best $30 offer. Even though he already had a signed document in his possession agreeing to the $40 amount, he said I needed to contact him.   

I emailed Chris explaining on September 14, 2021 at 4:46 PM a message from Steve (866 642-4868 ext. 1323014), from his same department, had been left on my home phone answering machine. I returned Steve's call on 9/16/21 at 11:04 AM, and left a message on his voicemail. We finally connected later in the day on Friday 9/17/21. Steve repeated the same offer Jon made, which I had already agreed to in writing. Steve said he needed to confirm the $40 by text, or email. I explained I do not have a smart phone, and I had already shut down my Internet for the Sabbath until Monday morning. Steve said it was not a problem. He would call me back Monday morning when I had the availability of Internet. Steve never called me back. I now had accepted the $40 monthly rate twice. Once with a written signature. Once by phone. 

Yet, the higher bills persisted. So, I kept sending the $35 I said I would until they got things fixed. At one point, I even offered to prepay a year ($360) if they would give me the $30 rate. I also put it in writing that when they cashed my $35 check they were agreeing it was full payment for the month. If this was not acceptable to them, they should simply return my check, and we would be done doing business with one another. With every bill, I sent a printed copy of my latest email, or written communication. With two phone promises already broken by Comcast, I started refusing to discuss the matter by phone, and asked for things to be in writing only.       

I would never have agreed to a $56 ($59) rate plan, and would have cancelled immediately if I had any inkling how deceptive Comcast would become. Not once did they indicate they had rescinded the $40 per month their representative offered (and I agreed to in writing), or even the $30 offer. Had they made that clear, I would have indeed cancelled everything immediately. I thought that, just like many years before, their left hand simply never knew what their right hand was doing, but they would eventually get it worked out. When I did answer the phone for a Comcast call, nobody ever knew the history of the account, so speaking with them was pointless.

When both my mother, and my wife's mother, died in December 2021, I no longer had time for Comcast's ridiculous games. I sent their invoice for the time period beginning January 1, 2022 back with no money, and a note to cancel absolutely everything, including the bogus past due balance. With all of their broken promises, including their agreements, not even acknowledging any details of my communications, and ignoring documentation, I should have known that with Comcast it would not be as simple as that. And, so here I am now needing to spell things out to Eastern Accounting System of Connecticut, Inc. (a debt collections company). 

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The emails I sent were, as with all emails, in descending order as a new reply was added to the previous email. Even the printed packets to those mentioned above, were patterned that way. To make things clearer here, and the progression easier to understand, I will start with the earliest communication, and continue in order until the most recent documents. 

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August 31, 2021

Dear Comcast (Xfinity),

I phoned 1-800-xfinity yesterday morning, and decided to hold, putting my phone on speaker, rather than use your call back system. In less than 10 minutes, as your prompts indicated, your customer service representative, Jon, answered the call. I explained to Jon that we had received a bill jumping from $35 to $56, which indicated to me our one year contract was up, and I needed to be connected with the customer retention department, as had been the case for several years now. Jon told me that was his department. I suspect you have instructed your employees to respond as such, since they are all in the business of “customer retention.” Jon and I spoke for 52 minutes. 

The first thing I explained to Jon was that I had been a business man for all of my adult life, so I understood that, as a person on the front lines, he does not make the rules, he just has to deal with the fallout. I told him my situation of having been a State Farm agent for twenty years before operating a spiritual resource center for the past 26 years. But, those years were without pay, so that is the reason I jump through the Comcast hoops every year to keep my costs down on our limited budget. 

I told Jon I did not understand a company that would cause such aggravation every year to a customer who had been with them for over thirty years. I would have left Comcast years ago if I did not dislike shopping so much. I mentioned my conversation with a Comcast Vice-President (customer relations) over a decade ago, where I told the VP that I receive at least two pieces of mail a week soliciting my business, but if they spent half that amount of money giving honest, above board, true customer service, with fair rates, using them for business, and additional services, would be an automatic. 

All of this was while Jon was looking for “the best deal he could currently offer me.” Finally, Jon said he could get me down to $40 per month for one year. But, if I used automatic withdrawal, he could go down to $30. I explained to Jon, the problem with that, is that when my one year was up, you would “automatically” start taking out $56, rather than the $30. Jon assured me I would continue to receive an advance notice when my rates would be changing. I explained to Jon, much to his surprise, that I had never been given any advance notice before. I only knew my year was up when I received the higher invoice. I expanded further that if Comcast were a company I could trust, I might actually consider it. 

Then I related one of my favorite Comcast stories I share with people any time your company comes up in conversation. I said I started with cable TV when Continental Cable (ultimately bought out by Comcast) first came to Grand Ledge. Then in 2003, I added internet service. They came as two separate bills for quite a while. Then I saw the rates jump on both, so I called. I was told they had done an audit, and since I had only one service, my rates had been adjusted. I explained I had both TV and internet, but they came on two separate bills. Your employee said it was an easy thing to change. To just pay the bill, and they would get things corrected. I made that same call, every month, for six straight months. Every month, I was reassured it was easy to fix, and it would be taken care of. Finally, I sent a letter with my bill stating I was sending no money, because by my accounting I had already paid an extra month when paying the incorrect amounts being billed. Sometime thereafter, I had a knock on my front door. It was a Comcast field technician, who said he was there to disconnect my service for non-payment. I explained that was fine, since there were plenty of other options to Comcast, but that he might wish to look at my documentation before doing so. Having his doubts, he said he would get the office on speaker phone, while I retrieved my records. I brought him the bills, the receipts, who I talked to each month, and what they had said. He was surprised, to say the least. But then things really got interesting. Your office rep asked him why he was even there, because I had no current accounts with you. I listened as your field employee argued with your office employee for half an hour that he was looking at two current Comcast bills, had both the TV, and the internet, turned on, and I was most definitely a Comcast customer. Finally she (office rep) found some records, and relented. As he (your field rep) was getting ready to leave, he asked if I had a copy machine. I told him I did. He requested copies of all of my shared documentation, so he would not have to “fight this same battle all over again” when he got back to the office. 

Jon understood why I would be reluctant to let you have access to anything. I told John, if I approved the $40, it would be my last year with Comcast. That would be a $5 increase two years in a row, from what was $30 when I discontinued my cable TV on one of these annual calls I am required to make. I asked John if he had a supervisor who could authorize keeping me at the $35 rate. I then related the story of the year I cancelled my Comcast cable TV. Every person I spoke with started out by saying, wow, I see you have been with Comcast for thirty years. I would reply that you would think that would count for something, but it obviously does not. It seems Comcast is more interested in adding new customers than keeping existing ones. When I owned my own State Farm office, I would explain to new agents, and my employees, that a satisfied customer who told others what a good place you were to do business with was worth way more than thousands of dollars of advertising. And, of course, vice-versa is also true, especially in these days of social media, and instant communications. I would also explain to GM employees who bragged about their security due to the size of their company, that no company who forgets there is a customer who pays every employee’s salary, or wage, is protected by their size, just ask any former K-Mart employee. I can now add, just ask any former GM employee. All that aside, I spoke to three different Comcast employees on the day I discontinued my cable TV after 30 years. Each lowered the rate a little, but they all said they could not budge on the cable TV portion. When I finally said, then cancel it, I was told I would have to return the cable box to a Comcast store. I indicated I did not have to. I had been to the local Comcast store, and it was worse that the long telephone calls. I was no longer a Comcast TV customer. The box was of no further use to me. It could go in the trash if they (you) did not wish to pick it up. I was given a number to call to set a time for the pickup. 

But that is not the whole story. When I called the number (apparently a disabilities department), and explained why I was calling, the lady (your employee) asked if she could see what she could do rate wise. I explained that three people had indicated Comcast could not come even close to what they had me paying the previous year, but sure. She came back with a price that was less than a dollar different than my previous year. I was inclined to change my decision, but when I happened to flip on the TV, and saw that Comcast had already shut off my signal, I was fed up. After 30 years, and numerous issues requiring a lot of my time, it took no time at all for Comcast to cut me off. I politely explained the facts to your employee, and said I was staying with my decision. Why would any business treat customers like this I marveled? 

Jon assured me, even though he was working from home, he was trying to find a supervisor to talk to me. We spoke some more while I was waiting. Finally, I asked if he could simply have a supervisor call me back. He said he could. When my wife came back home hours later, she asked if anyone called? She was not surprised when I said no, then added, Comcast is the worst example of a company whose left hand never knows what the right hand is doing that I have ever seen. 

I realize a $35 per month customer is of little importance to you these days. But, that is your fault. I have paid much more per month over the 30 plus years I have done business with you. I have a sterling record of making your payments. If you could give me a $30 direct withdrawal rate, you can most certainly send me a paper monthly bill at $35. That is what I am enclosing with my invoice. I will be sending a copy of this to your president, and any vice-president of customer relations. If you cannot keep my bill at $35 in perpetuity until such day as I would change my type of service, and must change it to the $40 Jon offered, I will accept that. But, like I told John, it will be the last year I do business with Comcast. I do need the internet connection once a week to upload my picture of the week, and other changes, to my website. I do not have time to shop around now, but I have other options. As a slow typist, it has taken me over two hours to compose this letter. If I add that to the numerous hours with you on the telephone, I am not sure why I have not made the effort to find other internet service, and put you on my list of companies to never do business with in the future. 

If someone shows up at my door this time to disconnect my internet on the spot because I only sent $35, I will simply print additional copies of this letter to share with him (along with AARP, and Consumers Reports, where I hold memberships). 

  Respectfully,
 
  (printed copy was signed by me)
 
William Gibbons Jr
(8529 11 402 0028837)

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From: CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care [mailto:CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 9:05 AM
To: wsharing.com@gmail.com
Subject: Comcast Executive Customer Relations - ESL04108808

September 30, 2021

Dear William Gibbons,

Thank you for contacting our executive office with your questions and concerns. We would like the opportunity to resolve your issue; however, we are unable to reach you. Currently, you’re subscribed to the Performance Starter for $56 per month. Contact with you would be necessary to discuss your monthly rate.

Please contact me at 1-866-642-4868 Ex 1323028 at your earliest convenience and reference ESL04108808so we can discuss your concerns. We are looking forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Chris M.
Comcast Executive Customer Relations
Comcast | Division
Office Hours: Mon - Fri 8am - 5pm (CT)

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From: William Gibbons Jr [mailto:wsharing.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 11:35 AM
To: 'CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care' <CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com>
Subject: RE: Comcast Executive Customer Relations - ESL04108808

Hi Chris,

I phoned 1-800-xfinity August 30, 2021. After a 10 minute hold, I spoke with your “customer retention” service representative Jon for 52 minutes. Jon finally said “the best deal he could currently offer me” was $40 per month for one year. But, if I used automatic withdrawal, he could go down to $30 per month. More details of our conversation were given in the below referenced letter. I asked if I could speak with a supervisor, and held for some time while Jon tried to find one. Finally, I asked if he could simply have a supervisor call me back. He said he could. No one ever called me back

On August 31, 2021, I composed, and sent, a letter enclosing a copy with my bill explaining the situation, along with a $35.00 check which was the last agreement amount I approved with Comcast. I also sent copies to your corporate offices. 

On September 14, 2021 at 4:46 PM, a message from Steve (866 642-4868 ext. 1323014) was left on my home phone answering machine. I returned his call 9/16/21 at 11:04 AM, and left a message on his voicemail. We finally connected on Friday. Steve repeated the same offer Jon made. I told Steve, if I approved the $40, it would be my last year with Comcast. That would be a $5 increase two years in a row, from what was $30 when I discontinued my cable TV because of your tedious games on one of these annual calls I am required to make. That represents a 33% increase in just two years. Steve said he needed to confirm the $40 by text, or email. I explained I do not have a smart phone, and I had already shut down my Internet, and my computer would be off for the Sabbath until Monday morning. Steve said he would call then. Steve never called me back

I am a key volunteer in a small non-profit that has a big event coming up. I do not have the time for Comcast’s ridiculous games. I am enclosing a copy of this email with a $35 check to Xfinity, which was the last agreed upon amount I approved with Comcast. I would love to present all of my documentation in any legal proceeding that tries to collect a penny more. 

You do not do what you say you will do, and your left hand never knows what your right hand is doing. You claim your customer service is improving, but you remain at the bottom of my list of worst companies to do business with. You are not trustworthy enough to give you access to my bank account, but for the basic Internet use I do, the $30 per month should be a permanent rate for us, after paying all of your billings for over 30 years. Everybody in your company always gives lip service to how much they appreciate my loyalty for the last 30 years, but nobody shows it. Why you (or any company) would want to make it so difficult for a loyal 30 year customer to stay with you is beyond my comprehension. But, it does not even seem to faze you. Your rhetoric always remains the same. So, here is my offer. 

I am not willing to commit to any more one year plans, where I have to go through this nightmare all over again one year from now. If you have to squeeze $40 from me, just start billing me for it month to month. As, soon as I can find an alternative, I will get rid of Comcast/Xfinity completely, and let people know why. 

Or, you can start billing me at the $35 rate I am paying without my constantly having to renew it each year, and get rid of your accumulated overcharges on my bill. 

Or, if you are willing to give me the $30 rate without automatic withdrawal, I am willing to prepay one year in advance ($360). However, I do not want to have to go through your insane annual ritual anymore. Just send me a bill for $360 showing the one year time period, and the removal of all of your overcharges, and I will pay it. Your technical service has been reliable.  If you keep sending bills each year for $360, I will likely pay those too until the day I die. 

If you choose to do nothing, I will keep paying the $35 each month, regardless of the amount billed, because it is the last agreement amount I approved with Comcast.  Should you decide at any point to disconnect my Internet service, I will take that as your decision to end our 30 year business relationship. 

I would in that case, of course, warn others to avoid getting tangled up in your craziness, and explain why I am glad to be done with your annual nightmare games. Believe me, I could document, or even write a small book with, all the times Comcast has shown disregard for the customer, and at times, complete incompetence.  

I am still with you because over the years there have been few options, and I do not like to shop for new anything. Plus, like I said, your technical service has been reliable. But things are changing, adding alternatives. The ball is now in your hands, and I am exiting the court. I am done playing this particular game.  

God’s peace,

william
Acts 5:29

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Editorial note: Technically my "last agreement amount I approved with Comcast" was the $40 per month I agreed to in writing with my first letter to the Comcast executive officers. But, they were not billing me for that rate, and I was still hoping they would let me pay the $30 rate they offered a year at a time rather than using a monthly withdrawal. The $35 was both the previous year rate, and was halfway between the two rates they offered for the current rate. Had I sent $40 instead, I do not believe things would have gone any differently. 

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From:
William Gibbons Jr [mailto:wsharing.com@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: 'CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care' <CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com>
Subject: Second reply: Comcast Executive Customer Relations - ESL04108808

Hello again Chris,

I have received another Comcast billing showing a past due amount.  In rereading your original email I noticed you stated, “Currently, you’re subscribed to the Performance Starter for $56 per month.” I thought I made it clear in my last reply that I am not currently subscribed to anything. But, based on your company’s past performance, I suspect it will take at least six months for your right hand to know what your left hand is doing. So, let me make it perfectly clear. 

The $35 I am sending is not a partial payment of a Performance Starter for $56 per month. It is the full monthly payment for your provided service. When you cash my check, you agree to this. If you do not agree to this, you should return my check uncashed. Constantly showing a not agreed upon previous balance is just a form of harassment, and intimidation. I will not waste any more of my time calling your company by phone. Your inability to keep your phone promises has already wasted enough of it. Put anything you have to say in writing, and send it to me. My previous email made you three offers. 

In my Internet search for alternatives to Comcast/Xfinity, I saw that Frontier offers a $38 lifetime rate option in my area. You would think a company as big as yours could come up with something similar at an even better rate. As a lifetime business owner, I am constantly perplexed by why you would wish to hassle, and aggravate, your customers as much as you do. I was at a gathering the other day, and mentioned I was in the midst of my annual “battle” with you, and every single person in the room said that Comcast/Xfinity is the absolute worst company to deal with. Most said they are only still with you because good alternatives are slow in coming. That is quite a reputation you are building. Which is a shame, because like I said in my previous email, the technology product you offer has been reliable. 

As always, I will print a copy of this email, and include it with my $35 (total monthly fee) check, even though I suspect you are so automated no one will bother to even read it. 

If you are incapable of correcting this at whatever level you are in the company, perhaps you need to forward it to someone higher with authority to resolve issues. In any case, rest assured, just like the case years ago mentioned in my letter to your corporate offices, I am retaining all of my documentation in case you cannot get your act together this time as well.  

God’s peace,

william
Acts 5:29

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From: Xfinity [mailto:online.communications@alerts.comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 9:12 AM
To: wsharing.com@gmail.com
Subject: Important Information About Your Comcast Account

Important Information from Comcast     My Account

Hello

This email is from Comcast with an important message regarding your Comcast account. Please review your account at www.xfinity.com or call our Customer Care Department at 1-800-xfinity (1-800-934-6489) as soon as possible. We are available Monday through Saturday from 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. Central Standard Time.

Pay Your Balance Now

Pay Your Bill     Store Locator     Apps     My Account

THIS IS A SERVICE-RELATED EMAIL
Comcast will occasionally send you service-related emails to inform you of service upgrades or new benefits.

Please do not reply to this email, it is not monitored.
If you'd like to contact us, please visit our website here.

Comcast respects your privacy. For a complete description of our privacy policy, click here.

All trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

Comcast Cable, One Comcast Center
1701 JFK Boulevard, Philadelphia, PA 19103
Attn: Email Communications

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Editorial note: Many emails like the one above were sent to me by Comcast. Tom Karinshak was the person one of the links lead to, so I used the email as something to attach my original letter (opening letter in this documentation) to, rather than explaining everything all over again. That letter was an attachment in the below very short message. All of the previous emails also followed the above one in the email sent to Tom. 

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From: William Gibbons Jr [mailto:justwilliam@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 1:17 PM
To: 'tom_karinshak@cable.comcast.com' <tom_karinshak@cable.comcast.com>
Subject: Comcast emails do not have a clue what has been going on

Hello Tom,

You were the linked to person, so here is the history of Comcast falling down on the job again . . .

They are listed from the newest to the oldest. 

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From: William Gibbons Jr [mailto:justwilliam@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 3:58 PM
To: 'tom_karinshak@cable.comcast.com'
Cc: 'CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com'; 'brian_roberts@comcast.com'; 'david_watson@cable.comcast.com'
Subject: Internet Service & Invoices

A copy of this email (with history) was printed and sent with my full monthly Internet service payment of $35. It also had a notation that the past due amount was inaccurate, and the documentation would show why it is false. Automated calls continue to come to my phone. But, I have seen nothing coming from Comcast in writing to resolve the problem created when your people did not follow through with the calls they committed to.   

Hello Tom (and whoever else is reading this),

On November 29, 2021 Comcast appeared to have shut off my Internet Service without any advance notification. This triggered my taking action to obtain another Internet access option immediately because I have a Picture of the Week that I upload to my website each Thursday.  

My documentation shows we have been having interactions with you (Comcast/Xfinity) regarding our account since August, when I was required to renew my $35 per month rate for only internet service by calling your customer retention department. An annual call I always dreaded by the way. As has been the case each month, I will include a copy of this document in my current billing envelope.  

My assumption my service had been turned off by you was based on the following computer screens. 

     
 
     

I looked at the “You may qualify for up to $50 a month toward your Internet Service” emails from Xfinity. I do not qualify. 

The documentation which follows should explain the details of these months since I called you to renew my lower rate. In a nutshell, you never followed through on what you said you would do when we were going to finish the transaction with you calling me back for an electronic signature. Then, for at least two billing periods, I sent you three options (by email and hardcopy enclosed with my bill) to enter into a new agreement, one of which was to simply prepay $360 for a year, instead of giving you access to my bank account for a $30 monthly rate you offered. I indicated I would not waste my time on the phone with you, based on your past performance. I stated that you needed to start billing me one of the three options, or put an alternative in writing. All I have recently received from you are calls on my answering machine telling me to phone you, and numerous (likely computer generated) emails telling me to log onto my account online to do something about the accumulating past due amount. 

The last time I had a billing problem with you some years ago, it took your field tech person (who ostensibly had come to shut off my service) arguing for half an hour with your office representative, based on my documentation, before things got worked out.    

I just saw an Xfinity ad on TV the other day for Internet only at $20 per month. I understand the concept of loss leaders to attract new customers, but what about loyal 30 year customers. Based on my actual use of the Internet, you have made a lot of excess profit off us. Even though I now have an alternative in place, I would still prefer to keep my Xfinity account so I am not rushed to set up a new system. My personal preference, from the alternatives sent to you, is to prepay for a year at $360, or less, now that I have seen the new ad. But I do not want this hassle every year. I want a price I can simply renew, when it comes due. Your product is great, your tech service rarely needed has also been good, but 30 years of hassling with your customer service because of your bizarre rate system is more than enough to have put up with.       

God’s peace,

william
Acts 5:29

www.wsharing.com

P.S. Whatever you choose to do, you need to erase the false past due balance. I have made it perfectly clear that when you cash my check, you are agreeing to continue that $35 rate (from our previous agreement) as full payment for your services until we can enter into a new agreement. 

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Editorial note: As it turned out, Comcast had not shut down my Internet, as far as I know, because the next day it was back up and running. As a domestic missionary, my take on this is, whatever shut down my system, God was likely using it to get me motivated to find Internet alternatives to Comcast/Xfinity. Little did I know at the time, that before the month ended, our mothers would die, and I would be so fed up with Comcast, I would tell them to "cancel everything." 

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From:CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care [mailto:CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 2:00 PM
To: justwilliam@comcast.net
Subject: Comcast Cares Mr. Gibbons ESL04154939 Latania H.

Good Day Mr. Gibbons,

Thank you for contacting our Executive Office regarding your Comcast-related concerns.  We would like the opportunity to resolve your issue however we were unable to reach you today over the phone.

Our records reflect consent was received on August 26, 2020 for a one year contract effective August 28, 2020 through August 28, 2021 (extended to end of billing cycle, August 31, 2021) for Connect (previously Performance Starter) internet service for $53.00 per month with a monthly contract discount for $18.00 ($21.00 as of January 1, 2021).  The year has concluded and the contract discount removed.  The agreement you made via the interactive voice response was an agreement which lasted 12 months only. 

Our records further confirm you have been notified multiple times of the contract discount end date on your statements dated October 18, 2020 through July 18, 2021.  Your last statement for $35.00 was dated July 18, 2021.  The statement dated August 18, 2021 for service September 1, 2021 through September 30, 2021 was for $56.00, the current retail rate for Connect (formerly Performance Starter) internet service.

Finally, you declined to speak with me yesterday and requested a response in writing, however our systems reflect your modem is offline and I cannot troubleshoot without speaking you, nor can I schedule a tech service call without your consent.

Please contact me directly at 866-642-4868 EXT 132-3004, at your earliest convenience so we can discuss your concerns. I am available between the hours of 10:00am-6:00pm CST Monday through Friday.  If your availability falls outside of those hours, you may communicate through email and I will respond at my earliest convenience. I look forward to speaking with you soon.

Sincerely,

Latania H.
Executive Customer Relations
Comcast Central Division
Office: 866-642-4868 Extension: 1323004
Office Hours: M – F 9:00am – 6pm

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From: William Gibbons Jr [mailto:justwilliam@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 7:00 PM
To: 'CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care' <CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com>
Subject: RE: Comcast Cares Mr. Gibbons ESL04154939 Latania H.

Good Day Also To You Latania,

Your version of things is rather limited. So allow me to bring you up to date.

“Finally, you declined to speak with me yesterday and requested a response in writing, however our systems reflect your modem is offline and I cannot troubleshoot without speaking you, nor can I schedule a tech service call without your consent.”

First off, I keep my Internet turned off when I am not using it. No tech is needed. Secondly, the reason I “declined to speak with you” is because the last time we had a billing issue, I spoke with “you” (i.e. Comcast) for six months straight, and every time I was told the issue was easily corrected, but it never was actually corrected, until I forced the issue by not paying a bill. This time, I have already talked to “you” three times, and not one of you has done what “you” said. 

So, as Paul Harvey would say, “here is the rest of the story.”  

God’s peace,

william
Acts 5:29

P.S. If “Comcast” really “cares,” y’all have a really strange way of showing it. 

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Editorial note: Each of the preceding emails I sent contained that first original corporate letter as an attachment, plus all of the emails and replies in descending order. That is what here is being referred to as “the rest of the story.”  

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From: William Gibbons Jr [mailto:justwilliam@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 2:14 PM
To: 'CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care'
Cc: 'tom_karinshak@cable.comcast.com'; 'brian_roberts@comcast.com'; 'david_watson@cable.comcast.com'
Subject: RE: Comcast Cares Mr. Gibbons ESL04154939 Latania H.

Greetings to everyone at Comcast (Xfinity),

My wife has set yet another Comcast bill on my desk showing that you have done nothing. It indicates a total amount due of $208, which tells me that things have not changed much in the 30 years I have been with you. Your right hand still never knows what your left hand is doing. The last email from Latania H was condescending, incomplete in its facts, and tried to make it sound like I was the obstacle, when in actuality it has been you that has failed to follow through on your promises for the last six months. Every month, I replied with documentation, and why I was continuing to send the $35 rate from the previous contract. Every month, I would get calls, and emails, showing you were totally oblivious to my attempts to get things settled. But, I wanted it in writing, so there was a written record. Your phone promises are worthless. 

For the week ending December 17, 2021, both my 90 year old mother, and my wife’s 94 year old mother, were in the hospital at the same time. My mother died on December 17, 2021. That same day, my wife’s mother was taken to Stoneleigh Residence, a hospice facility. She died yesterday, December 28, 2021. 

We do not have the time, nor the inclination, for these ridiculous games you play. The last time I had billing issues with you I spent six months calling, and listening to your promises, but it took not sending you any money, and a visit from your field tech to shut off my service, and him arguing with your office personnel, before things got resolved. He even asked me to photocopy all of my documentation for him, so he did not have to fight that battle all over again back at his office. 

So, again, I am not sending you another dime. But, this time I am cancelling you. As a lifelong businessman, I have never been able to discern if you are incompetent, or simply uncaring. However, either way, you have no trouble inconveniencing your customers, even when documentation shows you, and your bizarre systems, to be the problem. This bill shows a service period from January 1, 2022 to January 31, 2022. I will write “cancel everything” on it, and send a printed copy of the first page of this email as explanation. I have already wasted enough stamps sending copies of full documentation with my checks.  

Well over a decade ago, I told one of your corporate vice-presidents if you spent half of the money you waste soliciting me for additional business, and used it for actual better service (not just the lip service in your ads), plus a more consistent fairer rate structure, I would have actually considered recommending using Comcast in my other endeavors. But, that never happened.  Your corporate culture has never really changed, as far as I can discern. I can honestly say thank you for a reliable product. But, dealing with you has been a nightmare, any time I had to do anything beyond just paying my bill. 

So, after 30 years, I guess all I can say is goodbye. I do not expect we will ever be doing business with you again. 

God’s peace,

william
Acts 5:29

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General Notes: 

My computer is turned off at sundown on Friday (beginning of the original Sabbath) through sundown on Saturday, and depending how tired I am of working in front of a computer screen, often until very late on Sunday (end of the Lord's Day). Therefore, I typically do not see, nor have the opportunity to act on, or reply to emails except on weekdays. And, even then, I only schedule checking emails on Monday when I resume computer work, and on Thursday after I upload my picture of the week. Depending on how the week goes, emails might not be seen for several days (always not before Monday if you send one late on a Friday). Please keep this in mind when deciding whether to email or phone. 

I am not on Facebook, Twitter, or any other social media site. My online presence is the wsharing.com website. I encourage you to visit it. I added a “what is new” page, linked at the top of the home page, when I stopped sending notifications by email in 2017. I no longer maintain a personal email list. The "what is new" page will keep you informed of any changes, or additions, to my site. If you would like to become connected, or involved, with the Teaching & Sharing Centers non-profit, please visit the T&SC site (link on my homepage) for contact information. 

Helping to identify or stop spam, and the misuse of your email address:

All emails from me clearly state the topic in the subject line, and will have this signature in the body of the letter. If there are any links, the complete URL is shown, and the reason for the link described in the text. If I am including any attachments, they will be mentioned and identified in the body of the letter as well. My address books are kept only in my computer and not online anywhere. I do not forward petitions, lists, or similar items that show addresses, as these can be bogus attempts by spammers, or hackers, to collect them. If you receive anything which states it is from me, but does not meet the above criteria, delete the email without clicking on any links or attachments. You might first forward it to me with “suspicious email” as the subject.  

If you add me to a list of yours, or whenever you are sending me an email going to multiple recipients, I would appreciate it if you would please use my wsharing.com@gmail.com email address. It is my most public address.    

“Overcome evil with good, falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” - Peace Pilgrim

“You can show your love to others by not wishing that they should be better Christians.” - Francis of Assisi

 “We must bear patiently not being good . . . and not being thought good.” - Francis of Assisi

www.wsharing.com

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Editorial note: The above general notes always appeared on each of my emails as a part of my signature lines. I saw no point in taking up space throughout the documentation, but left it in on this last email I sent to Comcast/Xfinity. Comcast (below) did respond to my final email. 

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From: CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care [mailto:CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 8:21 PM
To: William Gibbons Jr <justwilliam@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Comcast Cares Mr. Gibbons ESL04154939 Latania H.

Good Day,

I offer you my sincere condolences on your multiple losses.  However, as previously advised, you have only made partial payments causing the service to incur late fees and become past due.  The account will disconnect on December 30, 2021 for non-payment.

If you would like to discuss further, please contact me at your convenience.

Thanks
Latania

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Editorial note: I used the above email to start an introduction page when I sent the complete printed documentation to the recipients listed toward the opening of this webpage. I replaced the subject line with "Cold Corporate Response To All Of My Documentation." Then after the email, I inserted the below text to complete the introduction page. 

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To AARP, Consumer Reports, my Senators, and Congressional Representatives.

Most of this dialogue with Comcast for over five months (chronologically from most recent to oldest) should be pretty self-explanatory. Comcast constantly pushed for phone conversations, rather than responding in writing.  I have come to believe that is intentional, since their emails did not even mention my offers, or documentation.  With everything done by phone, the customer has no written record of promises made, things offered, or agreed to.

They offered me a $30 monthly rate (automatic bank withdrawal), and a $40 rate (billed). When they did not call me back as they promised, I also offered, in writing, to prepay a year to get the $30 rate, since I did not want to allow them access to my bank account. I thought I went above and beyond considering their lack of follow through on their commitments. If any of you believe I did not act in good faith to finalize the agreement based on the rates they offered to me, and am just fooling myself that I was more than reasonable considering their past performance, I would like to know about it. 

Everyone I talk to about Comcast/Xfinity, who does business with them, seems to have similar stories, and complaints about them. People need to be warned about what they are getting into with Comcast/Xfinity. And, regulators need to know how Comcast treats its customers. Ultimately, they closed my account as delinquent for nonpayment (even though the past due balance was disputed) after I told them to “cancel everything.” This prevents me from accessing the area necessary to close/delete all of my Comcast email accounts/addresses.

They have called practically every day since then. Both times I chose to answer, the person calling had no clue about the history of the past months on my account. When I explain I wrote “cancel everything” on the bill (which to me included the half dozen Comcast email addresses, and the bogus past due amount), they simply say they cannot do anything. One put me into their phone prompt system, after hearing the details. I simply hung up. There was no point to explaining to yet another person. So, if any of you can help to make sure “everything” with Comcast got cancelled, deleted, and discontinued, I would greatly appreciate it.  

  God’s peace,

(printed copy was signed by me)

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Editorial note: The first reply (below) I received from the eight packets of documentation I sent, was from my State Senator Tom Barrett. He included a booklet about consumer's rights in Michigan. The second communication was from the attorney general's office (follows Tom's reply). 

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Starting below are the communications received, mentioned in my introduction above, which prompted me to create this webpage, rather than constantly printing all of the documentation every time someone pretends the past due balance billed by Comcast/Xfinity is legitimate. Based on my conversations with dozens of people, I suspect there are many who believe Comcast/Xfinity would fall into the category of "unfair or deceptive business practices" mentioned at the end of the letter from the Attorney General (above the Comcast reply). 

Over this entire period of months, I found it particularly interesting that in all of their written email communications, which is the only time they put anything in writing, they only vaguely alluded to my documentation with the use of phrases like, "Thank you for contacting our executive office with your questions and concerns," without ever actually acknowledging it, or mentioning any details I had provided in my "contact with their executive office." In not doing so, I must presume the intent was to be able to perpetrate the false claim that I had automatically, without consent, agreed to the higher rate they were billing. That alone, considering they were in possession of a signed written acceptance of the $40 rate right from the start of all of this, suggests to me there might be a corporate strategy of constantly pushing for phone contact so the customer never has anything in writing showing the promises, and agreements, entered into by Comcast/Xfinity representatives. It allows them to claim anything they want, rather than trying to arrive at the truth of a situation.  

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Editorial note: My reply to the collections company was simply the return of the above form with boxes checked, a copy of the introduction to this webpage, and a link if they wish to review all the documentation available to support my stance on the matter. 

As for the email from Xfinity regarding my former email addresses, I used Word to add my response here to their offer which was sent to the address shown in the email: 

PLEASE CANCEL/CLOSE ALL OF MY COMCAST/XFINITY EMAIL ADDRESSES/ACCOUNTS

justwilliam@comcast.net
atouchofwilliam@comcast.net
CherokeeBill@comcast.net
wsharing.com@comcast.net
TSCenters@comcast.net

I WISH TO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE TO DO WITH COMCAST/XFINITY

(printed copy was signed by me)

William Edward Gibbons Jr
March 4, 2022

And just to make sure they got the point, the below letter was also sent with it on my letterhead. 

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Comcast Cable
One Comcast Center
1701 JFK Boulevard
Philadelphia, PA 19103

Attn: Email Communications,

I have told people in your organization numerous times, and I have put it in writing at least twice, that all my Comcast email addresses are to be closed/cancelled/deleted, or whatever other term makes it clear to you they are to be completely gone immediately. You will get no free advertising from me by the continued use of your email. 

Respectfully,

(printed copy was signed by me)

William Gibbons Jr
March 10, 2022

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Editorial note: On Wednesday, March 9th, I decided to take the time to check my email addresses by borrowing my wife's smart phone to create a Wi-Fi hotspot. I discovered that I had my first contact from Angela Witwer’s office among my emails. 

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From: Jocelyn McMichael
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:15 PM
To: William Gibbons Jr
Subject: Comcast/Xfinity Concern- William Gibbons Jr.

Hi William,

My name is Joci, and I am the Constituent Services staffer in State Representative Angela Witwer’s office. I am looking over the documents you sent to our office regarding your experiences with Comcast/Xfinity. I wanted to let you know I have reached out to our legislative liaisons at the Michigan Public Service Commission to see if there is anything the state can do to help you in your situation. I will be in touch once more information is received. 

Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns or need further assistance at this time. 

Thanks,

Joci McMichael
Constituent Services
Office of State Representative Angela Witwer
Michigan’s 71st House District

N-1090 House Office Building
P.O Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514

(P) 517.373.0853
(F) 517.373.6589
jmcmichael@house.mi.gov

Legal Disclaimer: Please note that this email does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice or a legal opinion. All information and materials provided here are for general informational purposes only. An attorney should be contacted for advice on specific legal issues.

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From: William Gibbons Jr
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 2:53 PM
To: Jocelyn McMichael
Subject: Re: Comcast/Xfinity Concern- William Gibbons Jr.

Hi Joci,

In the last three days, I have been preparing a webpage response to the collections agency Comcast sent their bogus past due balance to. 

I figured this way I do not have to keep printing all those pages of documentation. Plus, it starts at the beginning and progresses through chronologically, so it is easier to follow. I will be uploading it late tomorrow, if you would like to see it on Friday, or whenever after that.  

https://www.wsharing.com/WS-NLE-220307-MD.htm

Thank you so very much for your response.

God's peace,

william

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From: Jocelyn McMichael
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 10:46 AM
To: William Gibbons Jr
Subject: Comcast/Xfinity Concern- William Gibbons Jr.

Hi William,

Thank you for that information. As mentioned, I did contact our legislative liaisons at the Michigan Public Service Commission about your inquiry and their response is below:

“We can reach out to Comcast and check on information regarding any remaining balance, the status of the account, and whether equipment was returned or remains outstanding.”

They are going to keep me updated with more information as it is received.

Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

Best,

Joci McMichael
Constituent Services
Office of State Representative Angela Witwer
Michigan’s 71st House District

N-1090 House Office Building
P.O Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514

(P) 517.373.0853
(F) 517.373.6589
jmcmichael@house.mi.gov

Legal Disclaimer: Please note that this email does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice or a legal opinion. All information and materials provided here are for general informational purposes only. An attorney should be contacted for advice on specific legal issues.

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Editorial note: On either Wednesday (3/16), or Thursday (3/17), I checked my voicemail, and found one from the Michigan Public Service Commission, indicating Comcast had responded to them that they were unable to reach me to resolve my issue. The email from Joci at Angela Witwer's office on March 9, 2022 had informed me she contacted MPSC on my behalf. I returned the MPSC call at 4:35 p.m. but their offices closed at 4:30, so I left a message explaining the pointlessness of returning Comcast phone calls, but that I had replied to their email. I presume the email from Comcast (below) was prompted by a contact from the MPSC, as it had a new case number. This was the typical very vague Comcast email (consistent wording has me thinking it is a form letter), but my response was not at all vague. I used to bring all of my emails into Outlook in my computer, where I could take my time composing responses, or deciding what to do with them. Since I have limited access to the Internet now, I dispensed with formalities, and got right to the point. 

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From: CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care [mailto:CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2022 at 4:26 PM
To: William Gibbons Jr
Subject: Comcast Executive Customer Relations Re: ESL04216738

Dear William Gibbons Jr,

Thank you for contacting our executive office with your questions and concerns. We would like the opportunity to resolve your issue; however, we are unable to reach you.

Please contact me at (866) 642-4868 ext. 132-3023 at your earliest convenience so we can discuss your concerns. We are looking forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Matthew W.
Executive Customer Relations
Comcast- Central Division
Office: 866-642-4868 Ext. 132-3023
Fax: 734-254-1861
Office Hours Mon-Fri: 8:00 am-5:00 pm (CT)

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From: William Gibbons Jr
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2022 at 11:05 PM
To: CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care [CENDIV_BigChiHrtExecutiveCare@comcast.com]
Subject: Comcast Executive Customer Relations Re: ESL04216738

The only things left to resolve are the removal of your bogus balance due, and the closing of all my Comcast email accounts. I do not return your calls because you do not keep your phone promises, and then I have no written documentation of your offers, and agreements. You have been twisting the truth for months.  

You can see the documentation I sent to your collections agency at: 

https://www.wsharing.com/WS-NLE-220307-BC.htm

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From: Jocelyn McMichael
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 3:33 PM
To: William Gibbons Jr
Subject: Re: Comcast/Xfinity Concern- William Gibbons Jr.

Hi William,

My apologies for missing your call earlier today regarding your case; however, I did listen to the voicemail, and you mentioned you received a call from the Michigan Public Service Commission. Are you able to provide more insight into that call? What was the outcome? Are you still in need of further assistance with Comcast?

Please let me know!

Thanks,

Joci McMichael
Constituent Services
Office of State Representative Angela Witwer
Michigan’s 71st House District

N-1090 House Office Building
P.O Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514

(P) 517.373.0853
(F) 517.373.6589
jmcmichael@house.mi.gov

Legal Disclaimer: Please note that this email does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice or a legal opinion. All information and materials provided here are for general informational purposes only. An attorney should be contacted for advice on specific legal issues.

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From: William Gibbons Jr
Sent: Thursday, March 24, after I uploaded my picture of the week (pasted copy just said "today.")
To: Jocelyn McMichael
Subject: Re: Comcast/Xfinity Concern- William Gibbons Jr.

Hi Joci,

They just said that Comcast told them they were trying to resolve the issue, but could not reach me. The Comcast person who called, also sent a very generic email, to which I replied. I have heard nothing from the collections agency. I just uploaded the additional documentation to my webpage at https://www.wsharing.com/WS-NLE-220307-BC.htm

God's peace,

william

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On March 25, 2022 we had a message on our land line answering machine from Matt at Comcast Executive Offices. Our machine recorded it came in at 9:34 A.M. (Matt indicated it was 8:35 A.M. central time). Along with some niceties, Matt said, "I just wanted to advise. Your account balance has been cleared. We have no equipment located on your account. Your account is closed.


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It is finished.

(see "closing thoughts" at the end to understand why I chose that phrase here)

After getting into my day, I phoned those still involved to let them know about it.

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On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:38 A.M. we had one more message from Comcast on our answering machine. This one was from Patrick at the Comcast Corporate Office. He said he had "received your [my] email indicating you [I] wanted all of those emails associated with Comcast deactivated-deleted . . . we have completed that process." He closed his call with his phone number and the words, "I wanted to follow up with you to see if there was anything else you needed?" 

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On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 12:05 P.M. we had yet another call from Comcast. This one came to my cell phone. I was out doing my cardiac walk, and had forgotten my phone, but caller ID showed the missed call as Comcast, and there was a voicemail left from the same person as yesterday's answering machine message. His name was not clear, so I am not sure if "Patrick" is the correct name of the caller, but he did identify himself as being from Comcast Corporate, and said he was calling again "to check to see if there was anything we needed to [still] do here?

I will not waste any more of my time returning calls to Comcast. However, if anyone from Comcast Corporate Offices is reading this, as long as my account is completely closed, my email addresses completely deactivated, and the bogus past due balance has been completely cleared, just like your phone messages have indicated they all are, then we are indeed finished. 

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Editorial note: The next, and hopefully final, entries are not necessarily in order based on when they were sent, but are in the order I saw them, and finally replied to the last Comcast email. I only get access to the Internet when I borrow my wife's smart phone to create a WiFi hotspot, or when I use the WiFi at Immanuel on Thursdays to upload my picture of the week to my website. I did not see the first two emails until late afternoon on Thursday, March 31. I was done with my work, and did not have the time to reply, but made myself a note to reply to Patrick the next time I was online. It was Tuesday, April 4th before that happened. Then I saw that Patrick had sent a second (similar) email on April 1st, to which I replied. 

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From: lara-mpsc-complaints@michigan.gov
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 8:30 AM
To: William Gibbons Jr
Subject: MPSC Case #: 01553107

Dear Mr. Gibbons,

Please see below for additional information I received from Comcast after closing your complaint:

Mr. Gibbon’s account is indeed closed and on 03/25/22, we have applied a one-time credit of 124.00 to clear the remaining balance on the account. 

In concern to the Comcast.net email addresses, which are complimentary and are not billed for, that the customer has requested closed, we are not able to deactivate the email accounts. The customer however, can access his xfinity.com account, log into his account and deactivate the email addresses associated with the account if he wishes to do so. 

I did receive your voicemail message regarding the credit that was applied to your account, but wanted to pass along the information regarding closing your Comcast email accounts. 

If you should have any other video/cable television concerns in the future, you may contact the MPSC online at www.michigan.gov/mpsc or by calling 1-800-292-9555. 

Sincerely,

Cindy Stephens

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From: CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 11:05 AM
To: William Gibbons Jr
Subject: Comcast Executive Customer Relations Re: ESL04228255

Dear Mr. Gibbons

Thank you for contacting our executive office with your questions and concerns.  Per your request, I have disabled the email addresses

justwilliam@comcast.net
atouchofwilliam@comcast.net
cherokeebill@comcast.net
TSCenters@comcast.net
wsharing.com@comcast.net

Comcast strives to provide outstanding customer service and I appreciate your bringing this matter to my attention

Regards,

Patrick H.
Executive Customer Relations
Comcast | Central Division
Office: 866-642-4868 Ext. 1323041
Office Hours: Tues- Sat 8am – 5pm (CT)

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On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 9:35 A.M. there was yet another call from Patrick on our home answering machine. He asked that I give him a call, and reiterated that he was calling "once again to just double check and see if there was anything else you [we] needed?" 

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From: CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 at 9:00 AM
To: William Gibbons Jr
Subject: Comcast Executive Customer Relations Re: ESL04228255

Dear Mr. Gibbons

Thank you again for contacting our executive office with your questions and concerns.  Per your request, I have disabled the email addresses

justwilliam@comcast.net
atouchofwilliam@comcast.net
cherokeebill@comcast.net
TSCenters@comcast.net
wsharing.com@comcast.net

Please feel free to reach out to us, if you need any further assistance. Comcast strives to provide outstanding customer service and I appreciate your bringing this matter to my attention

Regards,

Patrick H.
Executive Customer Relations
Comcast | Central Division
Office: 866-642-4868 Ext. 1323041
Office Hours: Tues- Sat 8am – 5pm (CT)

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From: william's works
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 12:50 AM
To: CENDIV-Big Chi Hrt Executive Care
Subject: Comcast Executive Customer Relations Re: ESL04228255

The entry shown as Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 12:05 P.M. explaining I had another Comcast call has the following  note . . .

I will not waste any more of my time returning calls to Comcast. However, if anyone from Comcast Corporate Offices is reading this, as long as my account is completely closed, my email addresses completely deactivated, and the bogus past due balance has been completely cleared, just like your phone messages have indicated they all are, then we are indeed finished. 

I did not see your email until later in the day, when I went to a local church to use their WiFi. 

I am just now seeing your April 1, 2022 email. 

As the above says, if Comcast has done everything its calls have said, we are finished. 

This entry will be added to https://www.wsharing.com/WS-NLE-220307-BC.htm on Thursday when I return to the church to upload my picture of the week.

God's peace,

william

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Plus From The Past

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Editorial note: In the process of getting the information from my files for this webpage, I found that there was yet another time that Comcast/Xfinity tried to bill me for something contrary to promises they had made. I usually only remember the one story of their tech person coming to the door to shut off my services, and his frustration in dealing with his Comcast/Xfinity office counterpart for half an hour. But, here is what I discovered in my Comcast/Xfinity folder about the second, of what I realize has now been three times when their right hand had no clue what their left hand had agreed to do, and they tried to bully me into paying something I did not owe to them. 

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Sent 5/6/13 through an online form . . .

Last week I called customer service, and was given the standard Comcast Catch-22. 

A long time ago I had told you I was receiving more channels than I should on my plan.  You said I was not.  Somebody finally figured out I was right, and I received a letter advising me of the change I would see in my service.  So far, just fine.

The brochure showing the channel listings, however, said I should have been getting channels 401-446 (music), so I called.  Your rep advised me I needed a different box to get what I was entitle to.  You would be happy to send me one for $10, or bring one out and put it in for $30.  Typical Comcast situation, so I told them to forget it.  Oh, I could have gone to a Comcast location 20 minutes away and waited for over an hour (the last time I did that) using up my gasoline, if I wanted to pick one up for free.  I never even thought to ask if the new box came with an extra monthly cost, which would have made this even more absurd.  Fine, this is my typical Comcast experience, so no thanks.

That would have been the end of the story except in the last week I received my bill on which you wanted to "thank [me] for being a valued Comcast customer."  I also received four solicitations from Comcast business to expand the business I do with you.  Bottom line . . .   

I have had the same cable service since Continental Cable first came to Grand Ledge, MI.  So, I truly should be a very valued customer . . . but your words are hollow.  I receive so many solicitations at my business from you, you likely spend more on mailings to me in a year than waiving the $30 would have cost you to show me real service.  I may have basic TV, but I also have high speed Internet with you.  I have never changed companies there either.  But, I would not even consider giving you more of my business, precisely because of the poor and disjointed way you handle customer service. 

I have been a business owner all of my life (I am 62 years old), I have weathered your ineptness when it took me six months of regularly calling to get a billing problem straightened out.  And then, it only happened when I stopped sending payments, and the service tech showed up to shut off my service.  Even after he saw my documentation, it took HIM half an hour of arguing with your office people to convince them of what I had been saying all along, to get the situation rectified. 

You give all sorts of credits and discounted services to attract new business.  Over the years you have eliminated more and more channels from the basic service.  The selections go down and the costs go up.  If you want me to feel like you actually value me as a customer?  Just come out and put the !@#*! box in that I need for the channels I am supposed to already be getting, without squeezing more money out of me. 

I do not have the time to look around for other services, so I will not even pretend that, but maybe it would start to give me a little different opinion of you.  One thing I have learned in forty years in business, a truly satisfied customer is really of more VALUE than all your advertising dollars.  And, enough people thinking you do not really care . . . well, even the corporate giants (kind of like you are now) have learned that lesson the hard way. 

God's peace,

william 


William Gibbons Jr
01721 146110-01-1

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Dear Comcast,

I tried your email option twice and got an error message both times.

I tried your chat option and was told no one was available . . . but I was free to waste my time waiting. 

All this after wasting 45 minutes with you on the phone. 

The emails explaining this are attached. 

william

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Original Message Follows:

The following information was submitted from the Comcast Web site

Name: William Gibbons
Account Number: 01721 146110-01-1
Phone Number on Account: (517) 627-3462
Contact Phone No: (517) 627-3462
Zip Code: 48837
Email Address: justwilliam@comcast.net
Comcast Email Address: justwilliam@comcast.net
Category: Billing Inquiries
Has Previously Contacted: True
Response Expected: True

Inquiry: "The Best Customer Experience, that’s what we strive for every day" is what you wrote. Well, I have been in business for over 40 years and you continue to provide one of the worst customer experiences I can imagine, or have encountered.

"We have been making significant progress in transforming the way we do business - online, through chat, on customer forums, as well as in person. We respect your time with innovations to" . . . wrong again, I just spent 45 minutes getting nowhere with your customer service by phone.

On 5/6/13 I sent an email through this online form which began . . .

Last week I called customer service, and was given the standard Comcast Catch-22.

A long time ago I had told you I was receiving more channels than I should on my plan. You said I was not. Somebody finally figured out I was right and I received a letter advising me of the change I would see in my service. So far, just fine.

The brochure showing the channel listings, however, said I should have been getting channels 401-446 (music), so I called. Your rep advised me I needed a different box to get what I was entitle to. You would be happy to send me one for $10, or bring one out and put it in for $30. Typical Comcast situation, so I told them to forget it. Oh, I could have gone to a Comcast location 20 minutes away and waited for over an hour (the last time I did that) using up my gasoline, if I wanted to pick one up for free. I never even thought to ask if the new box came with an extra monthly cost, which would have made this even more absurd. Fine, this is my typical Comcast experience, so no thanks.

. . . I will not reproduce the entire letter here, but it is saved if you need it.

A couple of days after the email, I received a call from your office (unfortunately, I misplaced her name and the exact date) indicating you would come out and put in the correct box with no cost to me. I was assured ALL charges would be credited back. But, when I received my 5/21/13 bill you had two $30 charges and only one was credited back. I did not even have an additional outlet installed, but that is beside the point.

Doris, at 1-877-842-6622, insisted that if you had intended to refund the service costs, you would have. I asked for a supervisor and was put on hold only to get Doris back. After 45 minutes, I had had enough. Your advertising is total BS. Like I said in my original letter, if I had not had you since the day that Continental Cable came to Grand Ledge, and have my Internet service and email addresses already established through you, I would not even hesitate to go elsewhere.

I was not willing to pay an extra $10 to resolve the issue initially, and I certainly will not pay you $30 simply because your complete incompetence is costing me valuable time. Get your act together, and get this taken care of.

Respectfully

william

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From:
Comcast ECARE
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:57 PM
To: justwilliam@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Comments for Tom Karinshak (KMM20654511V63386L0KM)

Dear Mr. Gibbons,

Good afternoon and thank you for contacting the Office of Tom Karinshak. My name is Shannon, and I apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry. I do greatly apologize for the many inconveniences you experienced with the customer services, and a $30.00 service charge added to your account. You have stated that we informed you that the installation would be free of charge. At this time, you would like this issue to be resolved in a timely manner. I do understand your concern, for if I were in the same situation, I would be just as frustrated. You have reached the right person, and I can definitely address your concerns today.

After reviewing your e-mail, I have taken a closer look at your account and I will use all of the resources available to me to assist in resolving this issue. Please know that we are continuously working to increase customer satisfaction and are putting a tremendous amount of resources into improving our customers' experiences with us. We want to assure you that we do in fact recognize and acknowledge that we have room for improvement in our customer service, and that we are working diligently to ensure we can deliver a great experience to your every time.

Also, I have applied a one-time courtesy credit to your account for the inconvenience you have experienced with the installation cost. Please allow 1 to 2 billing cycles to view this credit on your monthly statement. However, in order to provide any information concerning the amount of your credit, please respond directly to this e-mail with your Full Service Address. Here at Comcast, the protection of our customers’ information is one of our highest priorities and we cannot thoroughly discuss any billing concerns or make account changes without the account being secured.

If you have any additional questions or concerns, please contact us at 1-800-266-2278 or respond directly to this e-mail. As part of our Comcast Customer Guarantee, we are available to you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, by calling 1-800-Comcast (1-800-266-2278), or by contacting us again via e-mail or live chat at https://www.comcastsupport.com/ChatEntry

Again Mr. Gibbons, I apologize for the inconvenience that you have experienced on behalf of Comcast. If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. We know your time is important, so I want to thank you again for contacting us here at Comcast and allowing me to assist you. We are grateful to have you as a Comcast Customer.

Sincerely,

Shannon
Office of Tom Karinshak

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From:
William Gibbons Jr <justwilliam@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:39 PM
To: 'Comcast ECARE'
Subject: RE: Comments for Tom Karinshak  (KMM20654511V63386L0KM)

Hi Shannon,

Well, things just keep getting more interesting.  Obviously you received the online email form, even though when I clicked on the submit button I received an ERROR 505 message on my screen, which I assumed meant the email never went.  I tried re-entering the information again and got the same error message when I clicked submit.  So, you might get it twice. 

Plus, since I was of the impression my emails never went through, I printed the text (I learned early on to copy online text to a word document before sending) along with the text of my original email (which prompted the free box replacement), and a copy of Tom Karinshak’s online message, with a note on it for someone to please take care of this, and sent copies to the Comcast Cable President at your corporate offices, Tom Karinshak (your office) at the corporate address, my local (Lansing, MI) service center office, and with my bill (without payment) to wherever your pre-addressed bills return to. 

The reason I did not send a reduced payment is, the last time I had a billing problem, I made monthly calls for six months to resolve the issue.  Each time I was assured by the customer service rep (and once a manager) they had resolved the problem.  Finally, I had overpaid enough that I figured I had a full month credit coming, so I sent in the bill with just a note and no check. 

Shortly thereafter, a Comcast Technician showed up knocking at my door saying he was here to disconnect my service.  I told him I would be happy to let him do so, and I would finally take the time to go looking for a new company to do business with, but he might want to look at all my documentation before he did so.  Having heard many such stories before, I am sure, he said he would call the customer service office and put them on speaker phone while I grabbed my paperwork.  After seeing my billings and records of conversations, I had the pleasure of listening to him argue with your office person for twenty minutes, who insisted they did not know why he was even here because I no longer had TV cable and Internet services.  I had both the Internet and the TV turned on for him and the many months of two separate bills I had been receiving, and he kept explaining to the office that he was looking directly at the very things your office said did not exist.  The two of them finally worked it out, but before he left (with both my services still intact) he asked if I could possibly make copies for him of my documentation, because he had no confidence the office would get it taken care of properly. 

So, the bottom line is, I need a new bill in order to pay what I actually owe.  By the way, my copy of the bill says one of the $30 charges was to “Install – Add’l Outlet Unwired Home.”  There was no additional outlet installed, and I surely hope I will not have to deal with an erroneous monthly charge for one in the future.  All your tech person did was brought the box I was supposed to have to begin with, and took back the box which was incapable of receiving the channels I was supposed to be getting.  It ticked me off that you wanted to charge me $10 to send me the correct box and make me do the switch myself, so I initially said no thanks.  But, when I almost immediately received several solicitations from Comcast Business offering me great service and great prices, I had had enough and sent the first email.  In fairness to Doris, I am sure she hears all sorts of song and dance routines, many of which are total BS.  But, I can say with relative certainty that since I was unwilling to pay $10 to resolve the issue from the start (with me doing all the work), I most certainly would not have agreed to pay $30 (since I am clearly intelligent enough to have done the work myself).  In fact, I specifically asked the woman, who called from your (Tom Karinshak) office after the first email, to verify several times that I would see absolutely no cost to me to have you replace the wrong box with the right one.  Which she assured me of.  

This might seem like a long answer to your request for my service details, but it is actually the Reader’s Digest version compared with the amount of time I have had to waste with actual conversations, emails, and documentation. 

You sound like a person who earnestly wishes to do right.  It would be really nice not to have to call back because a late charge shows up while this latest Comcast mess is being resolved.  Here is the information (which is also incorrect by the way) as it appears on your bill:

William Gibbons
419 S Bridge St 2nd A
Grand Ledge, MI 48837-1501

Acct # 01721 146110-01-1

For what it is worth, if you really would like to clean up your records of me, I am actually William Gibbons Jr., and I always use the Jr. wherever my name appears without my wife’s name.  And, there is no “2nd A” in our address.  419 S Bridge St is a single family residence.  I would guess the “2nd A” somehow became a part of my address when you were sending me two separate billings (2nd account maybe?) and insisting I only had one type of service with you.   I never tried to correct it because I did not want a new mess over something rather inconsequential.  The post office simply ignores the nonsense after my real address, and the bill gets to me. 

I cannot see anything else on the bill I think you would need.  Let me know if there is.  Thank you for caring. 

God’s peace,

william

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Editorial note: I find it mildly amusing that both Rashea's response to the Attorney General, and the collection letter from the Eastern Accounting System of Connecticut, Inc., still show the incorrect address that was supposedly going to be corrected in 2013, as referenced in the above email. 

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On Thursday 10/6/2016 4:02 PM Comcast sent me an email which read in part . . . "We’re writing to let you know that we will be activating a new XFINITY Internet Data Usage Plan in your area. Effective November 1, 2016, your XFINITY Internet service will include one terabyte (that’s 1,024 GB) of data usage per month. With a terabyte of data you can stream between 600 and 700 hours of HD video, play more than 12,000 hours of online games, or download 60,000 high-res photos in a month. For the past three months, your average data usage was only 8 GB. Based on your usage history, you can still stream, surf, game, download and do whatever you want to do online, worry free." I did not remember having an example of how little I have used their service for the cost. 

In 2019, at one of these annual "review" times of what rate we were going to be charged for the next year, Comcast followed up with a survey. This was the year I cancelled my cable TV because three different people told me they could not get close to the rate I paid the previous year. When I called to schedule a time for them to pick up their converter box, that person asked if it was OK to see what she could do. Her rate was less than a dollar different than the rate I was paying before. But, they had already shut off my TV signal. I told her since after so many years of paying monthly fees to Comcast/Xfinity it only took them 10 minutes to disconnect me, I thought it best to just leave it that way. My responses (below) to the survey questions reflected my frustration. 

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From:
Xfinity [mailto:xfinity@emails.xfinity.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 7:21 PM
To: justwilliam@comcast.net
Subject: 5 questions about your recent call

We'd like your feedback

Thanks for calling us on August 28th. We wanted to check in and see how it went. Your feedback helps us know what's working – and what's not – so we can get better in the future. It's all part of our commitment to improve your experience.

Please let us know your thoughts about your recent call with 5 quick questions. You can get started with the first one right here:

How likely are you to recommend
Xfinity from Comcast to friends and family?

Not at all likely

Extremely likely

 

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


We look forward to hearing from you!

Sincerely,
Charlie Herrin
Customer Experience Team

My responses:

How likely are you to recommend XFINITY from Comcast to friends and family?

0 - Not at all likely

Why?

Your pricing system is too subjective and random. I got different prices from each person I talked to. Each of them said "let me see what I can do." By the time we got to a price I could afford, which was basically the same as I had been paying for a year, you had already turned off my TV service since the previous person could not offer that price, and I chose to go with only Internet. Every person I talked with remarked about my having been with Comcast since 1989. But being a 30 year customer of yours is apparently irrelevant to you. You have wasted my time and my money too often over the years. I told a VP of yours years ago, if you took the money you use to constantly solicit my business connections, and used it for better service and pricing for being a longtime loyal customer, I might actually consider recommending to the non-profit which grew out of my work giving you their business. Your people are exceedingly nice and patient, but there is nothing in the way you market your products, or your pricing systems, that would cause me to recommend you to anyone. If you jerk me around a year from now, my Xfinity internet will be gone as well . . . after 31 years of being a loyal (pays the bill every month) customer.  

How would you rate the overall service provided by the Comcast Representative with whom you last spoke?

4 - Highly Satisfied

How did your experience speaking with us affect your overall likelihood to recommend XFINITY from Comcast?

1 - Decreased a lot

What could we do better?

You could have just said, after thirty years of being a loyal customer, your current rate will continue unchanged, unless you should decide to add something in the future.

Did the agent resolve your issue?

No.

There was no option for comment.


CLOSING THOUGHTS

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I found it rather interesting that Rashea's phone call showed up on caller ID as an unknown number. Oh, I am sure there is no shortage of people who lie, try to cheat, and then attempt to avoid all calls from Comcast. I simply am not one of them. We never answer our land line home phone until we hear a familiar, or legitimate, voice being recorded on the answering machine. We get too many junk calls. The reason I did not wish to talk to Comcast by phone is they almost never had a clue about the history of the account. When they started to lie that I had somehow magically agreed to a rate that was almost 40% higher than I was looking for, and way more than we had agreed upon (by phone and in writing), phone conversations became a pointless waste of time. They kept cashing my checks, which they were told, and often retold, represented the full monthly payment based on the previous year, and present year offers, until they could get things fixed. They never returned my check as directed. They just kept perpetuating their lie, and not acknowledge anything else. Why would a company want to do that to a good paying customer of over three decades? It makes me wonder if this is just one more example of our "compete and compare" culture, and they actually are trying to prove through intimidation they are the big giant corporation, and no miniscule individual is going to keep them from doing whatever they want? But, "living the real truth sets you free." And, after the course of however long Comcast wishes to perpetuate their twisted truth of omission, I will indeed be free of their many games. Finding out how easy it is to live without Comcast, makes me wonder why it took the stress of both our mothers dying in December for me to finally tell Xfinity to take its ridiculous games, and get out of my life. 

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My son, who is much more knowledgeable than I, called from Colorado on one of the days I was working on this webpage. He suggested the possibility of speaking with a lawyer who handles class action suits. Since I have such complete documentation, and there are so many dissatisfied, and disgruntled, Comcast/Xfinity customers (almost every time I speak with someone about this, I get smiles, or chuckles, that bring out their stories of how badly Comcast/Xfinity treated them), he felt it might be worth looking into. However, Scripture tells me to settle with others outside of court if possible. As a domestic missionary who promotes using the question "what would Jesus have me do?" in all decisions Christians face, I must take His admonition in Scripture seriously. So, unless Comcast decides to keep pushing things, I will be content when they erase their bogus balance due, and I can be rid of them completely. 

Editorial note: This letter is now a part of my Newsletters, Letters, & Emails archives. It will remain here in perpetuity. If someday it should help other Comcast/Xfinity customers find relief, or even restitution, for wrongs perpetrated against them, that would not hurt my feelings at all. 

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As a lifelong small business owner, to this day it perplexes me why a company as big as Comcast would wish to aggravate, and antagonize, so many of its customers. Customers are the foundation upon which every business is built. Sure, I will point out below (I wrote that before this) how just a couple extra dollars per customer can translate into huge profits if you have enough customers, but if this is the reason, it is so shortsighted. I actually started out with Continental Cable. In the early days of the Internet, companies got exclusive contracts from a municipality, effectively creating a monopoly in any given area. That, of course, is rapidly changing these days. There are so many options now, you can no longer presume your customers have no place else to go. 

When I was growing up, used car salesmen were the least trusted occupation (in surveys) of the general public. Comcast might just give them a run for their money. I even have a lower opinion of NBC now, because Comcast is somehow connected with them. It really is a shame. Comcast/Xfinity has a good product, and most of their people I have dealt with are polite, and patient. Even so, their embedded corporate culture, and systems, seem to render them incapable of living up to what becomes just advertising rhetoric without substance. Plus, it interferes with the ability of their employees to keep the promises being made to Comcast/Xfinity customers. 

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With all the demands on my time, one might wonder why I would spend so much of it doing this? The last line in the Cherokee Bill's Teaching & Trade Center Mission Statement reads, "To heighten awareness of historical and present injustice and prejudice." I do not see Comcast/Xfinity as a company who shows prejudice as our culture defines it. Based on my conversations with many people, I have come to believe they treat people equally poorly across the board without prejudice. But, I also have concluded, the system they use for establishing rates, and the inconveniences, especially time, they burden their customers with, reeks of injustice. 

A close friend of mine was recently promised his rate would not change at all for a year. A couple of months later his bill went up by $2, but he was told the rate itself did not change. Who wants to waste the time to do battle over two dollars? However, as I have explained to a number of people, if Comcast can unjustly squeeze $2 per month from a million customers, that is an extra $2,000,000 in their pockets every month. I cannot say what their corporate culture promotes. But, after years of experience with them, they rank at the top of my list of a handful of companies I do not wish to do business with for the rest of my life. 

Comcast/Xfinity has a lot of good advertising. I suspect that is because, these days, people have more options than when I first signed up with Continental Cable over 30 years ago. Let this be a word of caution, however, regardless of how enticing an introductory offer might look. If you jump into bed with Xfinity (Comcast), you might just end up getting . . . . 

. . . . well there is enough documentation here for you to draw your own conclusions. 

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Final note: I was in the shower when my wife came in and said there was a message from Comcast on our land line answering machine that their "past due balance is closed." Those were her words. The verbatim message is quoted earlier in this document. Honest to God, the first thought that jumped into my head, after I heard her words, was of Jesus on the cross declaring "it is finished." I am not kidding. Maybe the proximity to Easter had something to do with it. Maybe the Holy Spirit just wanted to emphasize the joy, and relief, of the moment. All I can say is "praise God!" 

 

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